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Type 65 Coupe Update: Cockpit Aluminum, Battery Box and Fuel Lines   Leave a comment

IMG_8000 - kh6wz - 65 Coupe cockpit al

After several weeks, it is good to get back to work on the Factory Five Racing Type 65 Coupe. I finally completed drilling the rivet holes for all cockpit aluminum panels, and added a battery cut-off switch as you can see above.

Here is a hint for builders – there is a fairly large gap in the bottom right corner of the driver’s side floor and the “A” shaped piece that meets the transmission tunnel. I looked at several Coupes and Roadsters and they all have this space. However, by pushing on the A-shaped piece from behind (under the chassis and in the engine bay) – this gap can be closed up nicely. See below. . .

IMG_8007 kh6wz - 65 Coupe cockpit Al - fixed space

IMG_8008 - kh6wz - 65 Coupe cockpit Al - fixed space

 

But what about this area, at the rear of the driver’s side door – indicated by a piece of blue masking tape – see that gap? Does something cover this space up or do I need to fabricate a replacement panel? Both sides look the same.

IMG_8005 - kh6wz - 65 Coupe cockpit Al - correct or not

 

 

As mentioned in a previous post, I finally decided to mount the external fuel pump under the Factory Five Metal battery box. This is a protected location and is a low point on the chassis.

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One problem will be access to the fill and drain holes for the Ford Racing differential. I had to drill out the rivets previously installed and tapped some 1/4-20 holes – this will enable the removal of the battery box when draining and filling the rear end fluid. Not the ideal situation, but I do not see too many alternatives to this arrangement.

My Ford 302 V8 has an MSD Atomic electronic fuel injection system, and I am running both feed and return fuel lines. Here is a picture of the tank end. . .

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The fuel line runs from the first filter (right side of the chassis) to the fuel pump, and goes around to the driver side. Then it goes under the rear end to the passenger side of the chassis, where it goes to a second fuel filter mounted under the passenger seat, and finally to the engine.

The same path will be used for the return system. Pretty much standard layout.

Next Build Session

Depending on the weather, I will remove all interior panels and paint the under side with automotive under body paint. It is a rubberized black paint which should deaden some road noise, insulate heat and protect the panels from road debris.

Another item on the next to do list is the wiring harness. Here is a look at the main portion. . .

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Type 65 Coupe Update: Exhaust Side Pipes and More Fuel System Stuff   Leave a comment

I got bored with figuring out the fuel line routing and filtering, and it was a nice warm day today, so I decided to paint the Coupe exhaust system pipes and silencers. Even though they were stored in a corner of my dining room, and were covered with oil, there was a lot of rust forming on the surface of the pipes. My kit is now a little over a year old, and I wanted to prevent further rusting.

Here is the box of pipes and associated mounting hardware from The Factory. . .

Type 65 Coupe Exhaust, Uncoated, from Factory Five Racing, after one year

Type 65 Coupe Exhaust, Uncoated, from Factory Five Racing, after one year

There is an option to get the pipes ceramic coated, I probably should have ordered the exhaust with the coating. I noticed the brochure on the Factory Five Racing website has the exhaust listed as ceramic coated at no charge. I wonder why I missed that part?

I used silver Rustoleum BBQ paint (Ultra) to finish the exhaust. But first, I prepped the pipes with wire brushes, to remove the rust and roughen up the surface, and then wiped them with acetone to degrease so the paint will stick better.

I used a wire brush on a drill motor to get the rust off and roughen the surface.

I used a wire brush on a drill motor to get the rust off and roughen the surface.

Type 65 Coupe side exhaust pipes painted with silver BBQ paint - I think it looks OK.

Type 65 Coupe side exhaust pipes painted with silver BBQ paint – I think it looks OK.

The BBQ paint is a bit soft, I think this is because it needs to expand and contract when heated and cooled. But it will be easy and cheap to touch up.

I am not sure what the final exhaust side pipe color will be, so I sprayed three coats of the silver on just to prevent further rusting. I may change the color to black, since I want the main body to be white.

I did manage to mount the pre-filter for the fuel system. My 302 is fuel injected with an MSD Atomic EFI system, and came with most of the parts, including the fuel filters, hose, and external fuel pump. The first filter mounts where the Factory Five fuel filter is located, near the quad shock mount on the right side of the chassis. The MSD-supplied filter is smaller than the one supplied in the kit, so I had to figure out how to mount it. I am using a pair of electrical conduit clips to mount the first filter, as shown.

Electrical conduit clips are used to mount the first fuel filter to the chassis

Electrical conduit clips are used to mount the first fuel filter to the chassis

The fuel pump will mount to the bottom of the Factory Five Metal battery box. If you have IRS and want to use the same box, you must modify the battery box slightly, as mentioned in an earlier post. In addition, you will have to figure out how to make the battery box removable, since it will block the differential filler plug.

I will be mounting the battery box with nuts and bolts, and mount it so that it can tilt upwards for access to the rear end filler plug. More details and pictures will follow when I get to that chore. Here’s a sneak peek at where the external fuel pump will be mounted.

Type 65 Coupe with IRS - battery box and external fuel pump mounting location

Type 65 Coupe with IRS – battery box and external fuel pump mounting location

Type 65 Coupe Update: Fuel System Begins   Leave a comment

I should have done more homework on this part of the build process, since Factory Five Racing tells us they do not include the fuel system. This makes sense since it will depend on the engine. I have a 302 with an MSD Atomic EFI system, and it came with the (external) fuel pump and filters.

So now I have to figure out how to get from the fuel tank output tube to the first fuel filter, then to the pump and then to the EFI unit. I decided to install a return fuel line, based on the information in the MSD instructions, I hope this extra effort will be worth it.

I will make access holes and hatches for the fuel pump and filter, as well the rear suspension components and tali lights – this should make maintenance and repair easier.

Here are some pictures of the work done today.

Type 65 Coupe fuel pump possible location. This is the external pump that came with the MSD Atomic EFI kit. The first fuel filter will mount to the battery box.

Type 65 Coupe fuel pump possible location. This is the external pump that came with the MSD Atomic EFI kit. The first fuel filter will mount to the battery box.

Using CAD - cardboard aided design, the fuel pump mounting plate is taking shape.

Using CAD – cardboard aided design, the fuel pump mounting plate is taking shape.

Here is the fuel pump in its possible location.

Here is the fuel pump in its possible location.

The cardboard template is transferred to aluminum. The mounting plate is almost a quarter-inch thick, so it will be nice and sturdy. This piece will be drilled and painted later.

The cardboard template is transferred to aluminum. The mounting plate is almost a quarter-inch thick, so it will be nice and sturdy. This piece will be drilled and painted later.

By the way – the fuel tank is still not in its final location – the right side mounting bolts are not long enough. I may just get a length of all-thread and make my own bolt for that side. The left side seems to be OK. Next on the “To Do” list is fill and bleed the brake system.